They & Them
Join Devlyn Camp and Sal Gado as they cover LGBTQ news in Chicago and beyond! Their weekly podcast discusses queer news, music, pop culture, and politics, often with special guests. Come on, genderqueer!
Devlyn defines their gender more clearly. Sal gives us a glimpse of the afterlife. We talk about aliens, visions of our femme disco bar, and plans for the future of the podcast!
Welcome to the T in our LGBT Pride month interviews! xoxo
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This month’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
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Opening song “Sticks and Stones” by Jackie Shane.
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Sal delivers their groundbreaking study, The Grindr Report. Devlyn ponders the queer possibilities of the Frasier reboot. (Don’t erase Roz’s bisexuality!) We also reveal our secret tactics for making men online spiral into madness.
This week our guest is the beautiful B in our LGBT Pride month interviews, Courtney Feiler! (Sal’s girlfriend!) We’re talking about the new Hulu show “The Bisexual,” and sexual exploration!
You can still win a free copy of one of Owen Keehnen’s new books “Tell Me About It” or “LGBTQ Book of Days” by DMing us or tagging us on Instagram! (More about his books in last week’s episode.)
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This month’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
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Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Opening song “Sticks and Stones” by Jackie Shane.
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Devlyn talks about living in the space between being a gay man and a straight woman. Sal serves up some Botswanan tea!
Give us a G! We’ve got the G in our LGBT Pride month interviews, grassroots historian Owen Keehnen! She’s back! Talking about legendary disco Dugan’s Bistro, socialized queer censorship, Pride and cynicism, and the Belmont Rocks. Win a free copy of one of Owen’s new books “Tell Me About It” or “LGBTQ Book of Days” by DMing us or tagging us on Instagram!
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This month’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @theythempod
Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Opening song “Sticks and Stones” by Jackie Shane.
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Today’s episode is brought to you by Women & Children First Bookstore in Andersonville!
Sal reads from the Book of Jonas. Devlyn is learning life lessons from cartoons. We’re covering the recent email leak at Progress Bar, Buffalo Grove Pride, trans issues in court, and much more! Our EXTREMELY FUN guests are Lee & Sue, the @420oldfatlesbians viral sensation. We’re talking about their hilarious instagram videos, Chicago gay bars, and other “likes of dykes.”
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This week’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @theythempod
Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Opening song “Sticks and Stones” by Jackie Shane.
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Sal is blocking all the men on Grindr. Devlyn is spamming Sal on Grindr. We have James and Brian from Piece of Pie: The Queer Film Podcast joining us for a chat about their fun podcast and James’s Chicago queer history work!
Click here to check out our crossover episode on their show in which we talk about queer films A Fantastic Woman and Mosquita y Mari.
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This week’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @theythempod
Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Opening song “Sticks and Stones” by Jackie Shane.
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Today’s episode is brought to you by Women & Children First Bookstore in Andersonville!
Sal gets out the leather and lace for a spin-off. Devlyn auditions to be a pink capitalist? We both recount our odd experiences at the Stonewall Inn. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
Donate to Mujeres Latinas en Acción to support their new health center in Brighton Park! They are the longest-standing Latina organization in the country, serving to empower Latinas in Chicago through services which reflect their values and culture, and advocating on the issues that make a difference in their lives. Serving over 8,000 community residents annually, Mujeres services include after school programs for youth and teens, parent support programs, counseling, crisis intervention, and court advocacy for survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault, court supervised visitation for non-custodial parents, referrals to medical and financial support resources for women in need, and leadership development programs. mujereslatinasenaccion.org
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! This week’s bonus is about HBO’s new vvvv lesbian show Gentleman Jack. Queer history!
Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @theythempod
Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Devlyn joins Elisabeth Moss’s resistance against Gilead. Sal triggers lesbians with country music. Together we take you on an audio tour of Whoopi Goldberg’s instagram. You’re welcome!
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @theythempod
Support the show and get fun rewards and bonus episodes at patreon.com/theythempod
Visit theypodcast.com to submit music, suggestions, guest appearances, or if you are a Chicago pro-LGBTQ+ business interested in sponsoring the show!
Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
Devlyn is easily gay-baited. Sal stans a gay penguin. We’re debuting our Patreon!!!
Join our Patreon now on any of our three tiers: Supportive Lady, Sugar Mother, or The Reba McEntire Level. You’ll get our new BONUS podcast “More Queers For Your Ears,” buttons, posters, Q&A videos, and more! Click here or go to www.patreon.com/theythempod to join now!
Strip Joker is Chicago’s body positive stand-up comedy show featuring a diverse line-up of comedians from around the country! Highlighting the voices of queer and POC comedians, Strip Joker celebrates ALL bodies as the show’s founding mission since 2016. With a new show each month, you won’t want to miss them every second Saturday in their new home in Mary’s Attic at 10pm! This show benefits the National Network of Abortion Funds! Get your tickets here!
HIGHFEMME unapologetically celebrates femme authenticity, expression, and glamour. We welcome everyone and invite you to show up, show out, and make hypervisual our collective power. The show will feature performance art and DJs at Cerise Rooftop on May 17. First 200 humans get in free, $10 cover after that. Get your tickets here!
Click here to get your tix to the Chicago Gay Men’s Chorus production of “Stonewalled: 50 Queer Years.”
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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Sal has buttons for nipples! Devlyn only has eyes for Gentleman Jack. We’re both here to preach our heterophobic message to the masses! Cuddle up with us for some queer ASMR nonsense on this rainy Chicago day.
The Gay Liberation Network is hosting a benefit for transgender whistle-blower Chelsea Manning’s legal defense. She courageously exposed U.S. war crimes around the world and was recently imprisoned again by the Trump administration. Chelsea said, "I will not participate in a secret process that I morally object to, particularly one that has been historically used to entrap and persecute activists for protected political speech." The benefit will be held Saturday, May 4 at 7PM. Click here for more info to attend and/or donate!
Come to Chicago House’s Scattered-Site Housing night of storytelling and music at the Hungry Brain!
Get tickets here to support individuals and families who are living with HIV/AIDS, LGBTQ marginalization, poverty, homelessness, and/or gender nonconformity.
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Devlyn’s new fav doctor has discovered the remedy for the gay. Sal is literally OVERFLOWING with testosterone. We’re back! and trans-er than ever!
Come to Chicago House’s Scattered-Site Housing night of storytelling and music at the Hungry Brain!
Get tickets here to support individuals and families who are living with HIV/AIDS, LGBTQ marginalization, poverty, homelessness, and/or gender nonconformity.
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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Devlyn is hitting the road to San Francisco with their other podcast, Mattachine (links to tickets below!). Sal is a hot trans model (deal with it, Victoria’s Secret!).
Our very special guest is Zipporah Jarmon from Pyramid 7, boxer briefs for periods, not gender. Check out more on their website and Instagram.
Devlyn’s history podcast Mattachine: A Queer Serial is being hosted by the GLBT Historical Society this April 4, 11, and 18. Get your tickets here or on eventbrite.com! We’ll be back with new episodes of They & Them on April 17th! MISS YOU ALREADY.
Polls are OPEN in every ward in Chicago for the mayoral election. Mayors have a huge influence over the queer community, so make sure your voice is heard. Click here or go to chicagoelections.com to find out where you can vote (no advance registration required).
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Sal is over bored homophobes. Devlyn basically just recaps The Color Purple.
Pink capitalism, Alexandra Billings, and gay gay gay librarians. Come get in Tilda’s hat with us.
Polls are OPEN in every ward in Chicago for the mayoral election. Mayors have a huge influence over the queer community, so make sure your voice is heard. Click here or go to chicagoelections.com to find out where you can vote (no advance registration required).
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Sal is ready for the actual T. Devlyn is taking us all back to Pawnee. We celebrate our book giveaway of “Dugan’s Bistro and the Legend of the Bearded Lady” by Owen Keehnen! (Don’t forget the upcoming Bearded event at Unabridged Bookstore.)
Our special guest JACOB TOBIA joins us to talk about faith, gender, and grandma fashion. Get your tickets now to their March 12 event at WeWork, in conversion with Imp Queen! They’ll be discussing their brand new memoir SISSY: A COMING-OF-GENDER STORY. It’s f*cking gorgeous. Please purchase.
Check out more about Brave Space Alliance right here! They’re the first Black-led, trans-led LGBTQ Center located on the South Side of Chicago, and designed to create and provide affirming and culturally competent services for the entire LGBTQ community of Chicago. Brave Space Alliance was created to fill a gap in the organizing of and services to trans and gender-nonconforming people on the South and West Sides of Chicago.
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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Devlyn launches their campaign to #UngenderTheOscars. Sal is already planning their Cate Blanchett “Carol” holiday party. We call on our queer community to bring back femme disco clubs!
Our special guest is LGBTQ grassroots historian Owen Keehnen! He has new book out called “Dugan’s Bistro and the Legend of the Bearded Lady,” and you can win a free copy! Look below! It’s about the 1970s Chicago disco legend and his legendary queer club. It’s super fun queer history! Owen’s event celebrating the book, the Bistro, and the Bearded Lady is March 7 at 7PM at Unabridged Bookstore. Come see rare photos of the disco legends and roll around in the glitter!
Want a free copy of the Bearded Lady book?! Share our Instagram post or Twitter post to have your name entered to win during next week’s episode! Find more of his work (including biographies of Chuck Renslow, Vernita Gray, and Jim Flint) check out owenkeehnen.com.
MUSICAL GUEST! COOL! Shane Chestnutt! Check him out right here!
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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Devlyn is workshopping their Comedy Central special. Sal is trying to avoid heteros in public spaces. We’re desperate for attention, so if you’re enjoying the show please rate and review us on iTunes! And even more importantly, share the show with friends who like queer stuff.
The story about Jussie Smollett has developed since we recorded. Give it a google!
If you’d like to learn more about Muxes in Oaxaca, here’s a link to one of many short documentaries on YouTube about them!
Our special guest is Ames Hawkins from the Gerber/Hart Library & Archives in Rogers Park, the largest queer archive in the Midwest! She’s a writer, artist, Associate Provost for Faculty Research and Development and an Associate Professor in the English and Creative Writing Department, co-host and co-producer of the brilliantly named scholarly podcast Masters of Text (mastersoftext.com), and board member of the freakin Gerber/Hart archives! Follow them on instagram @gerberhart
Please vote if you live in Chicago! It’s super easy and will influence your life as a queer person. Click here!
More info about mayoral candidates can be found here, and for complete coverage of the LGBTQ candidates in mayoral and aldermanic races, click right here!
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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Sal is bowing down to Janelle Monae’s pansexual pageantry. Devlyn has been GOOPED by the fake news media. We also show off our grip on the New York City council with our gay mind control powers.
Also, a shout-out to our new friends at Piece of Pie queer film podcast!
Trigger warning for a quick chat about sexual assault (involving a certain movie director).
Please vote if you live in Chicago! It’s super easy and will influence your life as a queer person. Click here!
More info about mayoral candidates can be found here.
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Music by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
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We’re back with brand new Chicago queer news in our first episode since Sal’s top surgery! Devlyn is here to recap drag documentaries and scream about Janet Jackson, Sal has all the deets on their brand new nipples. Put some headphones on the monster in your pocket and join us!
Our special guest is Maggie O’Keefe! She’s running for alderman of the 40th ward in Chicago. (That’s Lincoln Square, West Ridge, Edgewater, West Andersonville.) Motivated by the 2016 election, she’s ready to take on corrupt Chicago politicians and work to make our neighborhoods more inclusive and affordable. Check out her platform at maggie2019.com!
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ONE MORE “best of” episode while Sal recovers from top surgery. We’re talkin about PrEP and the cute Howard Brown music video. (Hey, Gilead, #ReleaseThePatent!!) Special guest Scott Duff from the OUT Chicago radio show joins us to talk about gay theatre teachers, our undying love of Missy Elliot, and anti-queer cults—oops, I mean churches.
We return NEXT WEEK with new post-op episodes!
Check out Scott Duff’s LGBTQ radio show every Sunday morning at 11AM on WCPT! Or listen online here.
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Sal starts a monthly book exchange with a bigot. Devlyn can’t shut up about Billie Jean King. We proclaim Bobby Hill a gay icon. Special guest filmmaker David Weissman joins us! David directed some fantastic queer history documentaries, like The Cockettes, We Were Here, and now Conversations with Gay Elders. We chat about David’s youth in San Francisco, Sylvester, Harvey Milk, and cruising.
Check out more of David Weissman’s work at davidweissmanfilms.com.
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Sal educates the children on they/them pronouns. Devlyn rants about Miss Alice Blue Gown AKA the cops. We share a history puff moment. Special guests Nikk and Len from T-MAC: Transmasculine Alliance Chicago! They literally chased down Sal to be queer heroes, and now they’re chatting with us about their group at Center on Halsted for people assigned female at birth who identify as a trans man, transmasculine, nonbinary, or questioning their gender.
Look up info about their group here!
Or email Nikk at nikk.selik@gmail.com.
More about the Chicago Police Department shutdown of gay bars after Pride here.
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Maria lays down the law in San Francisco, Sal is on a quest for Elizabeth Taylor’s plaque, Devlyn cries at any mention of POSE. Special guest LORI LIGHTFOOT joins us, too! She’s running for mayor of Chicago, and, honey, has she got a detailed queer agenda.
(You can check out that LGBTQ policy here.)
Register to vote by February 10 for the February 26 mayoral election.
(Vote by mail ballot here. It’s so easy!)
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Join Devlyn Camp and Sal Gado as they cover LGBTQ news in Chicago and beyond! Their weekly podcast discusses queer news, music, pop culture, and politics, often with special guests. Come on, genderqueer!
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